An Alternate Perspective On Legal Abortion and Human Fetal Tissue Research
any woman wish to call me wrong me for posting such unqualified
statements, since I am a man, I could not call you wrong. That would
be the place for another woman. Other men are as fully qualified to
judge my opinions about how a woman, particularly one in deep
emotional stress, would react to a situation as I am to write them,
and that is not at all. Take no offense please, ladies, I confess
to complete ignorance to such in advance.
subject which represents a personal, and even a national crisis is
nothing to be lightly considered or heavily handled. If a woman's
pregnancy represents that individual's crisis instead of the blessing
it should be, a variety of good and well qualified counseling should
be easily available to be sought without fear of immediate
condemnation and/or later incrimination. Every effort should be made
to resolve the crisis with an emphasis being made that any support
necessary can be provided, and that if the birth mother can't or
doesn't want to keep the baby, then it nevertheless has a good chance
of finding itself in the loving family and home that maybe the
prospective mother never had for herself. At this point, any shame
to be had belongs only to those who would in any way put the baby and
mother at risk. It's time for one woman to make a serious, life or
death choice while being in what may be a seriously distressed mental
doubt there are many women who actually enjoy having abortions, so
there seems a natural bias exists in favor of seeking whatever real
help might be available. There may also be a bias to avoid seeking
help from close family and any local qualified (see below) ministers
who, in an ideal world, should provide the best safety net, however,
it should be realized that if such persons exist at all, they have
already failed in their own duties at least once. Such counseling is
a job for which no man will ever be qualified. That's not a question
of equal opportunity, only equal qualifications. If you still can't
confess that no man can ever understand how a woman thinks, then your
relationship with the opposite sex has yet to be tested. Ideally
and God willing, then the good, tireless, fully qualified and well
funded efforts of other women will result in a live birth, happy baby
and mother, and society will have done it's best in this regard.
do not, however, live in an ideal world and regardless of the degree
of our efforts, we cannot expect to save every child, even by this
full opportunity process, any more than an honest Christian can
expect to know every way of God immediately upon baptism. Trying to
do so might be deemed commendable by some, but such is the vanity and
folly of man. If this full counseling process between women alone
is driven underground, or more likely out of existence by the
damnation and removal of the "immoral" governmental law
which makes individual choice openly possible, the real truth is that
much ethical and moral ground will then be lost.
those who are labeled Christians take credit for this "boon",
just how many women carrying an unwanted child will ever seek "more"
help from you who forces their choice, much less those who might
someday find themselves in such a state. What real service have you
then done your Lord? What many people seemingly cannot fathom is
that a woman facing a pregnancy crisis alone, without benefit of the
comfort, reassurance and education that good counselors provide, may
take the only choice that seems open to her in that relatively narrow
window of opportunity, which is to abort the child. If faced with
breaking a law which is deemed unjust, doing so presently seems very
popular in some social circles and there will be lots of "support"
for that decision.
such is the case, attempting to force a new "moral" version
of governmental law that some call for actually has the potential to
kill more babies than the current "immoral" version, while
perhaps also killing or permanently harming many women in the
process. Why would anyone be pushing for a new law that does not
offer any good solution to real problems, but does create new ones?
Vanity perhaps? If I say it is better to spend your efforts instead
to save those who can make a choice, it doesn't mean to abandon hope
for the children. Children already belong to God, it is the vanity
of the unfaithful to think you can help them more than Him, and what
chance will you have to save them in this world if you leave no open
door for their vessel?
miracles on a Sabbath day was considered both immoral and illegal in
his day, but Jesus did so anyway because of his love, and was thereby
condemned by some. While some may cast stones (literally in some
cases!) at abortion parlors, there will always be characters to play
that role, legally or not, whether out of compassion or just for
profit. Stories about folding tables and coat hangers are not
imagined, they're history. Do you suppose that the drugs currently
available to induce abortions are not available at our local black
market "super mall", perhaps right next to the "X"
which may have initiated the crisis in the first place?
time of crisis is morally perceived as a time to minister, not to
condemn. If any Christian has some confusion about how God feels
about legal abortion and the judgment of anyone, I suggest you pray
(and read) about it, if you're so inclined. Romans 13 and 14 would
be an excellent start! Clue: you are not in authority of the law
here, God has chosen for us. In case you missed the message
somewhere, all men (and women) are your brother and you may be just a
big stumbling block. "Do not judge, least you be judged
yourself!" Guess who said that (it's in red in my own Bible,
you might have to look it up.) If such words induce you to flame,
better here and now than later when it really counts!
for one, do not wish to see one crisis merely turned into another,
equally sad or more so by the passage or reinterpretation of symbolic
"feel good" governmental laws. This is spiritual warfare
which will never be won through man's law alone, particularly if it
forfeits the last and perhaps only opportunity to even talk with a
prospective mother. Satan himself could not come up with a better
plan to guarantee that abortions continue! Abortionists should be
made to elect out of business due to economic necessity instead of
moving them (and maybe our own children) into the already booming
underground society. Who is called Lord there?
you torment women, and through your brash and vain efforts, should it
happen that you or your "minister" never get that
opportunity to look into the desperately seeking eyes of a woman or
child who might have sought your help in their time of need, who
might have given you a chance to save both her and her baby - because
you have already judged them and already made a decision for them
that should have been made only by the woman, whereas you'll still feel
smug in your morality all the way to your own Judgment, now at least
you can't then claim "I didn't know", so just rely on "I
a legal abortion is not a choice made between good or bad, only bad
or worse. And such a decision is solely that woman's to make! If
that killing is a sin, then it is hers alone. If anything is
conceived in sin, who's to say it cannot also die in sin. Remember
the child of David and Bathsheba? Would you dare to call God a
murderer? David was redeemed. If you call yourself Christian, do you
then also believe that God murdered his own son? For surely God could
have spared Jesus from death had that been his plan, but that plan is
for redemption also. If killing is ever moral, then it is justified
as being for redemption or as being of God's own wrath.
you are mortal man, do you claim to always recognize the difference
between what is original sin, the redemption of sin or God's own
wrath? Do you also always recognize the instruments of God's wrath,
or His redemption, or do you claim such titles for yourself? This
issue you may seek to force for the sake of your own judgments is
already a personal tragedy which may or may not have been originated
by a woman who will nevertheless face God herself when that time
comes. With God, through Jesus Christ, there is always hope for
redemption of sin, but if, claiming to be a follower of Christ, you
turn away that woman who could have been His, then I for one call
you either false or just very, very confused.
the dead to bury their own dead; but as for you, go and proclaim
everywhere the kingdom of God." Jesus Christ, Luke 9:60.
Jesus did not say "Well then, lets run right down to that
funeral so I can raise that dead guy and show you what real preaching
is all about and we can save all those souls right now! Let's wait
to pass the plate after I've impressed everybody!" There is a
time, place and reason for everything. And it is not the place of
Christians to do anything that is not in keeping with His teachings.
Not all souls will be saved, and the Day of the Lord is ever sooner
upon us. So don't waste time if you call yourself His, but spend
your efforts instead to save those who can make a choice of their
is the truth, that the most basic and simple elements of
Christianity, written and versed for almost 2,000 years, elude those
who would force their own belief of it upon others. In truth you
must open your heart to the Holy Spirit first, or you are counted
among those who have "eyes that do not see, ears that do not
hear." You cannot force salvation upon anyone, they have to
accept it freely, the same way it is given.
and salvation of your own soul is a gift, given freely in love by
God, not in return for money, not in return for deeds or good works,
it is yours to just take. That redemption and salvation was already
paid for dearly by the death of Jesus Christ, God's own son who was
on earth briefly to teach, to heal and to give God's message of His
love. No man can offer as much.
with any gift, you must be willing to receive it, recognize yourself
to the Deliverer and acknowledge Him before others. Only then will
He acknowledge you before his Father in Heaven and thus be spared
Judgement, for all have sinned. Do not let any false messenger cause
you to turn away the true Deliverer, but seek the Truth in God's Word
for yourself and, if possible, keep the company of other believers so
as to give strength to each other, spread the good news to others who
will listen and love.
I say, if you choose to have an abortion, you also choose to kill
what is surely as human as you are, for it is of your own flesh, that
which could grow to be your own child. And yet I favor giving you
that choice, for who am I? Whether your choice is moral or not, God
knows! My faith is that you will be judged by Him alone. Seek
redemption before any more sin if you will, but seek redemption
nevertheless before it is too late. You have only until that day of
judgment, the secret of which belongs to the Father alone. As Jesus
said to the woman whom he had just saved physically from being stoned
to death for her adultery, "Neither do I condemn you; go your
way. From now on sin no more." John 8:11
for those who say, "it's not really a human life, not a person,
not yet", what do you know? Would you plead your ignorance
before God? For what is a soul, if not spirit, and what is a spirit,
if not the spirit of life itself? Is there not a difference between
what you are, and the sum of your body parts? Is your life some
randomly generated, electrical type of animation of your own meat
brains and bodies that makes both work, yet somehow it gives you
complex thoughts, insights and vivid dreams, the likes of which you
cannot understand? You decide that for yourself, but not for me. To
me it is your life, your spirit, your soul. It is God's gift, and if
you acknowledge him not, you then choose to joined forever with
Satan, who has no love for any man.
yes, even the animals have souls, for why else would God even bother
to establish a covenant with them at the same time he did man. His
covenant was made to include "every living creature of all
flesh" Genesis 9:15 God said that he would judge the animals
also, and what will be be the judging of, if not their own soul? He
has also given the animals for man to eat, but their spirits (by way
of their blood) are for God. Their flesh is simply called "meat".
results of abortions should be dead and buried if you honor any
humanity or even the possibility of God. "Let the dead bury
their own dead". Who could ever apply so much meaning to so few
words?. That which would, with only a little time, have been a baby,
a child and then a man or woman did not choose to make a
"transfusion" or an "organ donation, and it is morally
wrong that someone would make that choice for them. Donations of,
and for life are nothing less than a sharing of your soul as well,
because the spirit is with it, at least according to God's Word, and
it is good that people should choose to do so because Christ shed his
own blood for us. If human fetal tissue is dead, it is then just
human flesh, fit only to be buried, as according to God's plan. But
if human flesh remains living - trading in such flesh is like unto
slavery and the partaking of living human flesh is nothing but
abomination in God's eyes. But that's just my opinion, please form
your own opinion, make your own choice.
a human embryo have flesh? If so, would you call it dog flesh, human
flesh or just ignore any need to label it other than "cells".
Excuse me, that's "living cells", at least for a little
while. Would you call it your "meat"? If you take it into
your body without the permission of it's owner, that is what you do,
you make it your meat. If flesh is living, then it has a soul, even
if you deny your own. God has given man authority over the animals
to eat, but not over other men.
"Human Fetal Tissue Research"
moral choice as to these topics are totally unrelated, legal abortion
and human fetal tissue research, some may think it so. Herein lies the truth.
This label "fetal tissue research" seems designed to convey
benefit to all mankind, after all, it's being sold as a cure for the
worst of ailments currently being unfairly inflicted upon the
unfortunate masses, all of whom have their own "rights" not
to suffer so. After all, no one should ever suffer like that for any
reason, right? It is very promising and shows great hope, offering
both increased knowledge and perhaps even immortality by way of it as
an ultimate goal and reward for it's proponents.
an appeal is universal, who could not want it? The original of such
sales pitches is divine in origin, and to use it to promote your own
purposes is most clever. Who could have thought of such a thing?
in the interest of due diligence, we should carefully pull off that
label and see what is really underneath. We might see something
Human Flesh Exploitation Technology and Pharmaceutics Company, Inc. -
a submission of your own "in kind" contribution may have
already been provided by your HMO, clinic or doctor without your
permission, but thank you very much anyway. It's for good things,
you know. Want to buy some stock, we're doing very well."
you would seek to obtain such "benefits" for yourself and
mankind, I suggest you pray about it first. Pray real hard! And if
you don't believe in God, it will not matter to you in the end, so go
ahead. After all, you're only meat and maybe another person who
thinks like you do will some day decide that your own meat is best
served on his plate, alive! That will be his choice, and claiming
your "rights" will avail you little.
the killing of humans to be deemed moral, it must be for redemption
by God, or on account of the wrath of God. For who's original sin
should millions of such souls, however tiny, be killed by man's
election? Is it for redemption? Is it the wrath of God? Or will it
ultimately incur such a wrath unto us who chose to let it happen?
Don't just feel sorry for those souls or the children they would have
developed into, they are already with God, just fear God's Wrath upon
therefore wish to hereby warn all of you who take sides between
"right to choose" and "right to life". First,
there is no "right to" anything. We make choices,
individually or collectively (sometimes a simple majority will do)
for ourselves and for those under our authority and then God either
allows it or He doesn't. He wants you to make a choice, for
thereupon you will be judged! You will incur His wrath for the
choices you make if they are wrong (for they are then called sin),
either individually or collectively, that is His choice. Sometimes
the innocent suffer his wrath also. Such is way of God, it doesn't
seem fair, but God is God.
there are already highly motivated and/or highly paid people who wish
to further confuse what we're talking about here. One is an
individual choice question (should she, or should she not have a
choice). The other is something entirely different, a question of
whether we as a society will make the choice to allow some humans to
actually partake of living human flesh (or products derived
therefrom) for their own, perhaps selfish reasons.
confusers can do so by saying "so what's the big deal, you were
going to throw this stuff out anyway, so it can't be human or people,
nothing like that. We're buying and selling it from the back doors of the clinics.
The law would not allow that if it was wrong would it? Our laws are
good! We ought to continue to use this stuff for the good of
mankind!" We can even get some taxpayer dollars for the
simple as I can make it:
A WOMAN THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE IS BETTER BECAUSE BY THAT YOU DO NOT
HINDER GOD'S WORK WITH YOUR OWN EFFORTS. IT IS NOT YOUR SIN UNLESS
YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE IT SO. DON'T!
as to the other,
ABOUT IT, PRAY HARD! EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW GOD, YOU SHOULD FIND AN
don't give over one issue into another, too much is at stake. Form
your alliances carefully. I think we're smart enough to address both
issues for what they are. Please tell your friends if you care, and
those who've been appointed in authority, but keep this message in
whole, addressing both issues together. For what is a half truth is
but a lie and Satan is father to all such.
Truth is found only in the Spirit that is called Holy, for who do all
the others serve? If you be a friend, or if you care for the world,
let everyone decide for themselves what parts of these writings are
true or false, and then you will have made your own choices and you
shall learn more about your friends, one way or the other. It's all
about the choices you make, if you can.
to parties sleeping far below
snug in your blankets not of snow
pray tell of monsters such as we
to scare the children with some glee
and never fret that you should cower
above your ashes to our tower
in keeping with the legends old
who would have guessed that we'd be cold
gravely desire we company
put on a pot of boiling tea
to slack our thirst and wet our tongue
yea worship forever the bung
yet grapes of wrath are all we wrest
for counted those among the best
shall join our fete mora complete
thought resting deep beneath your feet
for mighty figures once germane
compose de rigor mortis fain
as blood does jell so spirits rise
it seems a worthy compromise
to join your others throughout life
and no, we'll never tell your wife
should we dispise if you are blest?
welcome poor soul to Ever Rest
Like a scroll unrolling in both directions, the Earth's basalt crust spreads away from the Mid-ocean ridges while faithfully recording within the rock mirror images of the historic reversals of the Earth's magnetic poles.
This article cites 450,000 years as an average cycle to change polarities, however, let us note that the periods range greatly with some being relatively brief to some being in excess of 10 million years long. Basically we don't know when a reversal may happen again and we can only speculate as to what causes it since this has not occurred within recorded history. There may be a good reason for that because there has also been some speculation as to whether these polar reversals may be causal of historical extinction events. But note also: "Statistical analysis shows no evidence for a correlation between reversals and extinctions". (Don't worry, be happy.)
This is known science which describe the workings of our own planet, but this same type of seafloor spreading, the "scroll" in addition to vast oceans of water has now also been documented as having once existed as the ancient history of our neighboring planet Mars, The active magnetic field and the resulting reversals are now gone for Mars, so we might call it a "dead" planet in more than one respect. Still we hope to find evidence of life there, perhaps that of the past if not of the present.
But where did all that water that was once on Mars go to? For that matter where and when did Earth's own water come from, perhaps on multiple occasions? Does Earth have some water which once served Mars? Water is, as far as we know, a principle prerequisite to life. Could some forms of Martian life have migrated to Earth along with Martian water? We've apparently found rocks from Mars here on Earth... why not oceans of water as well? There are rumors of these floods, you see...
Nevertheless, magnetic reversals and seafloor spreading both represent quite natural, recently proven processes which may also be in evidence for millions of other planets to be found within our own Milky Way Galaxy. Can this also be taken for granted for the billions of other galaxies we see and their presumed planets spread across the whole Universe. To what extent could any such a "living" planet such as Earth or even ancient "living" Mars initiate, protect and support life as we know it, perhaps in ways we'd have some difficulty even recognizing? We currently know of only one such "living" planet having any life at and that is Earth. Lucky us!
Q. Why is my world so small? Why is my vision so myopic?
Part II. The Religion Lesson:
All of this seafloor spreading and magnetic reversal science does, however, have some implications for the religious among us, the question being, "Are our own scrolls, those historic and surely infallible Holy religious documents upon which we base our faith(s), larger or smaller, older or younger than the worlds-wide ones we've just discussed which crosses great oceans of planet Earth and did so also for Mars as above described?". If the Holy works are indeed infallible (and so they are!) is there something we've just determined as being wrong with any interpretation thereof which specifies all of creation as being little more than 6,000 years old? Let us clear that up first... at least for the Abrahamic religions.
The Hebrew word for "day" as having been translated into modern languages is "yom". If the stars, sun and moon do not even show up until the forth "day" of creation, how do we then define then at least the first three yoms? A brief study should suffice... (And no, men did not play hopscotch with dinosaurs. Get over it.)
Yom But even within the English language itself, William Shakespeare is considered, in my opinion, to have been the greatest English language writer of his DAY. I suspect he lived longer than a day to get all that writing done but I digress. Back to Religion, with perhaps a few scientific implications thrown in... if one is paying attention.
Children of God, who among you are ready to eat meat? It does not yield easily and can only be appreciated by chewing with one's own teeth. However, such meat cannot be savored by the multitudes. Fear not, for in the eyes of the Lord the knowing of the world always takes second place to having faith in Him alone. Even the blind and deaf can get this one...
On the day of the Lord, consider what the prophets (who cannot lie) said:
Joe 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end [is] it for you? the day of the LORD [is] darkness, and not light.
Amo 5:20 [Shall] not the day of the LORD [be] darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
Darkness, Darkness, Darkness... > < = 0
If by being under the direction of God true prophets cannot lie and even as science itself always seeks truth by it's own proofs, how stands then Jesus, the Jewish (possibly mystic) Rabbi, the proclaimed Son of God who is given the Throne of Judgement, or the one true Prophet who shall return to us (depending upon who you ask) speak the truth?
Mat 19:30 But many [that are] first shall be last; and the last [shall be] first.
Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mar 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Luk 17:20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Luk 17:22And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see [it].
Luk 17:23And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after [them], nor follow [them].
Luk 17:24For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one [part] under heaven, shineth unto the other [part] under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
The questions remains, where lies an answer as to how and when all these things shall come to pass? As for the Day of the Lord, only time, or perhaps the absence of time, will tell. Did you ever have your whole life suddenly flash before your eyes? The trick in this is to not die immediately afterwards, and anyway - you already know the answer to this one. Or not?
Think! The answers are always given, but seldom if ever directly because such things are called mysteries for good reason. Luminous beings and even one's soul, absent the mass of a body are not constrained by the "illusion of time" as Einstein put it. But that said, "the first shall be last", "this generation shall not pass", and "of that day and hour knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven..." all these "lies" about the timing of things coming from Jesus - who cannot lie, so what is left to think?
It is, as I mentioned earlier, a Mystery. As such any reader regardless of faith or understanding as to the nature of mysteries has done well to continue reading this far but it might yet serve him or herself well to continue no further. No matter, such mysteries are guarded by "curtains behind curtains" to repeat some other lost mumbo jumbo, so the unprepared mind either simply rejects or cannot even fathom the scope of such things. Call it a scotoma, because surely the answer is already right before you even now, even yesterday, even from the day of your conception.
"Fly you fools!" - Gandolph
Time to put all matters to rest... time. The only problem with expectations is the timing thereof. So look no further, Do not look towards the future, expecting a specific "time" for the Day of the Lord. It will come to you and it will come for you, both wherever and whenever you are - just as it will come for every day, every second and every blink of every person's eye who has ever lived or ever shall live for that matter.
Science would seem to agree. Einstein once said, "For we convinced physicists, the distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, however persistent. Imagine a cosmic event, or even perhaps a relatively local one, say, within our particular spiral arm of the Galaxy whereby our illusion of time, our only guiding agent of causality is suspended... and thus our perception of time collapses upon itself...
The last shall be first, the first shall be last, this generation shall not pass... no generation shall pass, the Yom is now. The Yom is now for every now, forever and ever, past, present and future. I suspect Jesus (the ultimate insider) knew this all along, but then He apparently had a habit of speaking in parables and riddles. If you have to ask why He did this, obviously you do not know Jesus, but that is written also. Who knew he was a physicist? Would I dare to call this crazy idea a "string along" theory? Perhaps not, but feel free to chew on that a while also.
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